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by SubstantialTarantula
Sun Nov 22, 2020 7:31 pm
Forum: Buprenorphine Dosing Discussion
Topic: Once, twice, or three times per day
Replies: 5
Views: 1399

Re: Once, twice, or three times per day

Hello,
Here is one aspect you may not have considered. Taking the med that close to bed would be very likely to cause disruption of sleep. SO it is possible that after a few days of this you feel the crash. There is no amount of coffee that could erase all that lost (quality) sleep.

SuBTaRa
by SubstantialTarantula
Sat May 11, 2019 12:19 am
Forum: Methadone Maintenance
Topic: What made methadone better than buprenorphine for you?
Replies: 22
Views: 6335

Re: What made methadone better than buprenorphine for you?

I am currently on suboxone, but I still crave n’ cave around twice a week What doses of sub have you tried and how many per day? I have found it to be even stronger subjectively than methadone was at doses of 4 to 8 mg dosed .5 to 2mg at a time. And Sub is just as good for my pain as methadone was ...
by SubstantialTarantula
Fri Mar 15, 2019 7:03 pm
Forum: Freestyle
Topic: Do you announce that you are sober and on Sub at AA?
Replies: 13
Views: 3098

Re: Do you announce that you are sober and on Sub at AA?

I'd say AA it doesn't matter. NA on the other hand have a paper dedicated to their opinion on drug replacement, stating that people on replacement aren't truly abstinent, and passing as such doesn't go with the traditions of the program. That being said, ultimately it's up to you. https://na.org/?I...
by SubstantialTarantula
Tue Mar 12, 2019 1:03 am
Forum: Buprenorphine and Mood
Topic: suboxone stabilizing bipolar disorder?
Replies: 23
Views: 8555

Re: suboxone stabilizing bipolar disorder?

I thought most opiates had a stabilizing effect on mood. It is only being forced into WD which is sure to cause extreme symptoms.
sub
by SubstantialTarantula
Tue Mar 05, 2019 12:10 am
Forum: Buprenorphine Dosing Discussion
Topic: I have terrible cravings! Afraid i will relapse
Replies: 12
Views: 3456

Re: I have terrible cravings! Afraid i will relapse

Everyone's taking about raising dose to like 16 or 20 mg. Maybe that's a good idea, but in my experience Sub can only offer a certain amount of distraction/satiation no matter what dose. Sure you get a good feeling for a week or two, but doesn't it just even out to the same thing eventually? Please ...
by SubstantialTarantula
Sat Mar 02, 2019 11:38 pm
Forum: Other Addiction Support Programs
Topic: Boss at treatment center said no counselor can facilitate
Replies: 7
Views: 2276

Re: Boss at treatment center said no counselor can facilitat

Your boss is an asshole! I don't suppose you could arrange an insurrection? Amy I think my boss falls somewhere on the narcissistic spectrum. What do you think? I'll give an example... Incessant talking in the office about himself when we are all trying to do paperwork, or relax on a lunch break. I...
by SubstantialTarantula
Sat Feb 23, 2019 8:17 pm
Forum: Buprenorphine Dosing Discussion
Topic: Might try taking the strip between my gum and cheek
Replies: 22
Views: 4661

Re: Might try taking the strip between my gum and cheek

Thanks guys I will try it in the spot you described, just to the left or right of the front teeth and see how it goes. I know I haven't been getting aS much bupe in my system with these new 4 mg strips. I have been all ever this forum lately trying to figure out the best way to go about this. One f...
by SubstantialTarantula
Thu Feb 21, 2019 8:26 pm
Forum: Stopping Suboxone
Topic: ugh I'm Back!
Replies: 21
Views: 4886

Re: ugh I'm Back!

raudy1975 wrote:This is a marathon not a sprint.
Totally.
SUB!!!
by SubstantialTarantula
Wed Feb 20, 2019 9:20 pm
Forum: Misc. Suboxone Issues
Topic: Increasing Sub Dose To Help Quit Kratom!
Replies: 26
Views: 5361

Re: Increasing Sub Dose To Help Quit Kratom!

I’d recommend staying at 6 mg for 2 full weeks, then drop to 4 mg. I know you probably could drop usually no problem, but don’t incur any cravings / WDs this early quitting kratom. Just my 2 pesos. I agree :) I am just happy to have bounced to 6 right quick. 4 will come in time. It's so cool how wh...
by SubstantialTarantula
Wed Feb 20, 2019 12:15 am
Forum: Misc. Suboxone Issues
Topic: Increasing Sub Dose To Help Quit Kratom!
Replies: 26
Views: 5361

Re: Increasing Sub Dose To Help Quit Kratom!

An update on this thread. A couple weeks ago I started to taper back down. I had bumped up to 8mg/day to assist with quitting kratom. Well that is good n done! So I am at 6mg/day, and will prob go to 4. My experience at 8 was that although it was more sedating for a week and a half or so, eventually...
by SubstantialTarantula
Fri Feb 15, 2019 7:26 pm
Forum: Other Addiction Support Programs
Topic: Boss at treatment center said no counselor can facilitate
Replies: 7
Views: 2276

Re: Boss at treatment center said no counselor can facilitat

"Some SMART Recovery participants choose to attend other meetings when they cannot attend a SMART Recovery meeting, as they construct their own paths to recovery." Amy I suppose they aren't pushing AA on anyone ;) Anyways, I got the go ahead to do a meeting for addiction professionals only. The ide...
by SubstantialTarantula
Fri Feb 15, 2019 12:24 am
Forum: Other Addiction Support Programs
Topic: Boss at treatment center said no counselor can facilitate
Replies: 7
Views: 2276

Boss at treatment center said no counselor can facilitate

Boss at treatment center said no counselor can facilitate a SMART recovery meeting because of the dual relationship concept. Basically, for those who are not in the substance abuse field, he was saying that clients from my work could attend the SMART group, and that would violate a dual-relationship...
by SubstantialTarantula
Wed Feb 13, 2019 12:47 am
Forum: Buprenorphine Dosing Discussion
Topic: Doctor appointment tomorrow-need advice
Replies: 14
Views: 3142

Re: Doctor appointment tomorrow-need advice

My .02, No matter what dose I have tried, after a coupe weeks I adjust and it seems that sub just has a certain feeling that doesn't change much no matter what dose I take. I tried lower doses like 4, even 3 mg for a few weeks and got depressed at times. I tried 8 mg/day for the last 5 weeks, and ag...
by SubstantialTarantula
Sat Feb 09, 2019 8:40 pm
Forum: Induction Discussion
Topic: MARA..a newer recovery group..
Replies: 11
Views: 2469

Re: MARA..a newer recovery group..

Hello everyone. Ive found a new group that has the makings of something really big and missing in our brand of recovery. Till now the only thing out there for people on MAT is Smart recovery, thank god its there. But what if I told you that A newer type of group has popped up over the country? An i...
by SubstantialTarantula
Fri Feb 08, 2019 10:26 pm
Forum: Buprenorphine Dosing Discussion
Topic: Dosing numerious times a day. Too much?
Replies: 5
Views: 1436

Re: Dosing numerious times a day. Too much?

I have been doing 2mg 4X day sublingual, and for me the analgesic effects just build as the day goes on, but I never really suffer anymore, even in the mornings it is enough. I agree w/ doc2 that when you do it 6 times a day, it becomes a bit obsessive. Whatever works though. No one can know your pa...
by SubstantialTarantula
Fri Feb 08, 2019 12:24 am
Forum: Stopping Suboxone
Topic: from 4mg to 2mg
Replies: 5
Views: 1297

Re: from 4mg to 2mg

Whenever I see a taper schedule, I guess the 25% reduction begins at 2mg? Does this mean that if I'm simply dropping fown from 4mg to 2mg, there's no need to step down to 3mg for about a week first? If this is the case, could someone explain to me what is significant about the 2mg level of buprenor...
by SubstantialTarantula
Mon Feb 04, 2019 11:23 pm
Forum: Buprenorphine Dosing Discussion
Topic: Buprenorphine Absorption Under Tongue
Replies: 10
Views: 2566

Re: Buprenorphine Absorption Under Tongue

rule62 wrote: Much better absorption and you can talk w/o worrying about it.
It seems like studies indicate that sublingual is better for absorption, but I can see how cheek/gum could be better. It certainly offers a nice slow release, which is nice for pain patients.
^^^S^^^U^^^B^^^
by SubstantialTarantula
Sat Feb 02, 2019 8:12 pm
Forum: Buprenorphine Dosing Discussion
Topic: Buprenorphine Absorption Under Tongue
Replies: 10
Views: 2566

Re: Buprenorphine Absorption Under Tongue

I really don’t know exactly how fast it absorbs but I start feeling better (because I wake up feeling awful in the morning) about 20-30 min from the time I put the medicine under my tongue. Maybe one of the doctors would know more about that question because I’d like to know too. I knew a poster wh...
by SubstantialTarantula
Wed Jan 30, 2019 12:52 am
Forum: Buprenorphine Dosing Discussion
Topic: Maximizing Absorption
Replies: 16
Views: 5101

Re: Maximizing Absorption

On the one hand, maxing your absorption will increase effects. On the other hand, you are raising your tolerance, so in the long run it is easiest to just live your life, drink coffee before a dose whatever, because these less absorption methods will keep your tolerance lower, which also increases e...
by SubstantialTarantula
Tue Jan 22, 2019 1:10 am
Forum: Stopping Suboxone
Topic: I'm starting a long taper.
Replies: 52
Views: 8295

Re: I'm starting a long taper.

For the last 8.5 years I've been taking 24mg of Subutex a day and I've finally decided to start tapering and work toward getting off Sub completely. Yay! Sadly I have practically always snorted my Sub, mostly because of the awful taste, but I realized recently that doing so also likely has a higher...