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Nightmares and Dreamscapes

Posted: Wed Dec 12, 2018 11:03 pm
by jjsmommy3313
Hey Y'all,
Yeah, I'm a Stephen King fan, does it show? Lol
Anyway I have noticed throughout the years that opiates/opiods,especially in large amounts, increase the frequency of my dreams while I'm asleep. And they're usually nightmares.
Since I've started Suboxone it's been more of the same, mostly nightmares. If I fall asleep on my back they are even worse.
I'm not complaining, because they sure aren't going to keep me from continuing my treatment, but I'm curious to hear y'alls experiences, if any.
Jjsmommy

Re: Nightmares and Dreamscapes

Posted: Thu Jan 10, 2019 1:41 am
by bunsonbyrner
The header dragged me in. I’m also a long time Stephen King fan, and someone who loves living in that alternate dream state when possible. To date, I wouldn’t say I’ve noticed an upswing in any particular kind of dream, nightmares included. My Zubsolv (the brand of buprenorohine/naloxone my insurance will cover) has made it to where I have zero difficulty falling asleep anymore. Frankly, that side effect has been mostly a godsend as I used to suffer insomnia for weeks at a time and haven’t had any issues thereof in over three years now. I’ll go ahead and say it up front for full disclosure that I’m a fairly open minded person and have recently taken to sleeping with a tigers eye stone on my person, either in a pajama pocket, or worn around my neck on a silver chain. While I’m not what I would call a practitioner of the magical arts—I do some pretty good card tricks—that side of things, the energy inherent to different substances, has piqued my interest, and whether it’s psychosomatic or not, my dreams have changed concurrent with this activity. They feel more normal, regulated; very much a continuation of my waking reality. The trouble I’ve had is in parsing them from reality upon waking. While they are vividly real, they’re also very mundane. That is, until I have something I would call a nightmare, which ends up being way more believable than say, getting chased down the Vegas strip by werewolf zombies or something of that kind. I mention it really only as a partial suggestion. As with anything to do with crystals, semi-precious stones and using them for anything other than a fashion statement, a lot of their so called “power” hinges upon a measure of belief. Insomuch as a person who does not want to be hypnotized cannot be hypnotized, I would argue that if you find the idea ludicrous—and I wouldn’t blame you if you do; I’m sleeping with a rock, for crying out loud—then the effects themselves might be muted or otherwise not there at all. The logic there is circular, but faith is as important as anything.

Anyway, that’s a long walk around the block for probably not a lot of help. Please keep us posted though if you find a suitable remedy for the nightmare issue.

Bunson Byrner

Re: Nightmares and Dreamscapes

Posted: Thu Jan 10, 2019 2:43 am
by BlueLight
With you having nightmares and waking up when on your back, it makes me wonder if you have sleep apnea. Possible?

The reason I hate benzos and especially Xanax is they give me very vivid, awful dreams that also make me bite my tongue repeatedly in my sleep. During a partial WD event in order to get some sleep I took Xanax for 4 nights in a row. I bit an ulcer into my tongue that needed to be chemically cauterized to heal finally.

Re: Nightmares and Dreamscapes

Posted: Fri Jan 11, 2019 11:33 am
by Amy-Work In Progress
Do you remember the role dreams played in The Stand? There was one group that was taking just enough sleep medication to keep the dreams at bay. They had wonderful dreams of Mother Abigail, but incredibly scary dreams of the dark man. It's my favorite book, btw.

Amy

Re: Nightmares and Dreamscapes

Posted: Fri Jan 11, 2019 6:53 pm
by SisterMorphine
Amy-Work In Progress wrote:Do you remember the role dreams played in The Stand? There was one group that was taking just enough sleep medication to keep the dreams at bay. They had wonderful dreams of Mother Abigail, but incredibly scary dreams of the dark man. It's my favorite book, btw.

Amy
The Stand sounds interesting. If i read it I have forgotten it. I've been re-reading then donating all my books. Some of them have so much more meaning after gaining life experiences.

Re: Nightmares and Dreamscapes

Posted: Sat Jan 12, 2019 12:55 pm
by Amy-Work In Progress
I hope that you decide to read it, SM. I think it's an incredible novel. Interesting premise of most of the population being wiped out by a government made virus. Those who survive end up in one of two camps. That of mother Abigail (good), and that of the dark man (bad). The survivors have dreams every night that lead them to one of the two camps.

Amy

Re: Nightmares and Dreamscapes

Posted: Thu Jan 17, 2019 6:20 pm
by SisterMorphine
Amy-Work In Progress wrote:I hope that you decide to read it, SM.

Amy
i added it to my list!

Re: Nightmares and Dreamscapes

Posted: Fri Aug 16, 2019 7:33 pm
by csrprof
The Stand is incredible and perhaps even reflective of current political reality.

I re-read it this summer for the second time. The first time was in the 1980s.

Ironically, the reason I'm on the forum is due to my ex girlfriend, and she gave me the book from her sister's library.

Blessings to all.

Re: Nightmares and Dreamscapes

Posted: Tue Aug 20, 2019 4:48 am
by Ryan Ryan Ryan
When I first started suboxone, I couldn't barely sleep at all. However I did some research and bought melatonin 10mg pills and also swiss relax & sleep pills. I now sleep on average 8 hours a night and have a very good night habit of reading something for an hour or two before bed. A good routine and these sleeping aid supplements may work for you as they do for me. My dreams are absolutely glorious now, like adventures in an RPG like Final Fantasy :D

Re: Nightmares and Dreamscapes

Posted: Sun Sep 01, 2019 12:17 am
by SisterMorphine
Ryan Ryan Ryan wrote:When I first started suboxone, I couldn't barely sleep at all. However I did some research and bought melatonin 10mg pills and also swiss relax & sleep pills. I now sleep on average 8 hours a night and have a very good night habit of reading something for an hour or two before bed. A good routine and these sleeping aid supplements may work for you as they do for me. My dreams are absolutely glorious now, like adventures in an RPG like Final Fantasy :D
have you ever experimented with lucid dreaming??

Re: Nightmares and Dreamscapes

Posted: Sun Sep 01, 2019 5:45 am
by Ryan Ryan Ryan
You get these awesome dreams just by taking a few kava pills a night. Don't take too many though or you get bonkers dreams which are more a nuisance than entertaining.

Re: Nightmares and Dreamscapes

Posted: Sun Sep 01, 2019 8:05 am
by jennjenn
My 13 year old has said for years, since he was too young to know anything about lucid dreaming, that he’s able to change his dreams because he normally recognizes that he’s dreaming in his dreams. I cannot do this, if I’m dreaming then it’s really happening as far as I know until I wake up and even when I wake up sometimes it takes a few to realize I was dreaming! My son.... he swears that he knows if there’s a bad guy or whatever in his dreams, he knows it in the dream lol. I don’t know if he knows what he’s talking about but it’s absolutely cool if he really is able to do that... if anyone is able to do that, because I sure can’t.

Re: Nightmares and Dreamscapes

Posted: Sun Sep 01, 2019 5:21 pm
by SisterMorphine
Ryan Ryan Ryan wrote:You get these awesome dreams just by taking a few kava pills a night. Don't take too many though or you get bonkers dreams which are more a nuisance than entertaining.
i've had never heard of kava. is it to help with sleeping too or just relaxing?

Re: Nightmares and Dreamscapes

Posted: Sun Sep 01, 2019 5:27 pm
by SisterMorphine
jennjenn wrote:My 13 year old has said for years, since he was too young to know anything about lucid dreaming, that he’s able to change his dreams because he normally recognizes that he’s dreaming in his dreams. I cannot do this, if I’m dreaming then it’s really happening as far as I know until I wake up and even when I wake up sometimes it takes a few to realize I was dreaming! My son.... he swears that he knows if there’s a bad guy or whatever in his dreams, he knows it in the dream lol. I don’t know if he knows what he’s talking about but it’s absolutely cool if he really is able to do that... if anyone is able to do that, because I sure can’t.
hey that's cool. he can manifest a sword or something to fight off the bad guy. or a hover board to get away from him. you can do anything you want its kind of cool.
idk if everyone can do it. friend told me about it. i can't remember if he said exactly how to do it though. he was getting into astral projection around the time he passed away. which may actually be similar to lucid dreaming.

the first time i did it though, i developed an ability to predict deaths thru a certain dream i have. i know someone has died or is about to die, but i don't know who. idk if playing around an a different plane turned something on or what.

Re: Nightmares and Dreamscapes

Posted: Sun Sep 01, 2019 11:13 pm
by Ryan Ryan Ryan
SisterMorphine wrote:
Ryan Ryan Ryan wrote:You get these awesome dreams just by taking a few kava pills a night. Don't take too many though or you get bonkers dreams which are more a nuisance than entertaining.
i've had never heard of kava. is it to help with sleeping too or just relaxing?
Both. :)

Re: Nightmares and Dreamscapes

Posted: Thu Nov 28, 2019 4:05 am
by TeeJay
The Stand has the reputation as one of Steven King's greatest novels. I never read it, but I watched the 1994 movie. Apparently it's being made into a new miniseries by CBS.

Last King novel I read was Dr. Sleep. I really liked how it touched a lot on addiction recovery, and goes into 12-step stuff a bit here and there.

Re: Nightmares and Dreamscapes

Posted: Thu Sep 24, 2020 1:48 pm
by bfromaz
I was on morphine for 10 years till I lost my insurance. No insurance = No pain management. I had some of the most horrific nightmares during that period. Initially I had to sleep with the lights on. It was bad...

Then I learned to embrace them. I soon looked forward each night to them. Being transported to vivid/brightly lit dreamscapes of incredible intensity. When I used to wake from them the rush was better than anything...

I don't miss the morphine... I really miss the dreams.

Will more than likely be starting suboxone for pain soon and perhaps my dreams will return.

Bfromaz