Suboxone = Perminant damage? I'm not sure we have the answer

If you tapered off Suboxone or stopped cold-turkey, how are you now? How did buprenorphine compare to other addiction treatments for you?
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Post by Romeo » Sun Jul 29, 2012 8:54 pm

Winningduhepic said, "Coming off suboxone/opiates and expecting to be normal soon after would be like loosing a loved one and expecting to be how you were before they passed soon after."

That comment reminded me of something my addiction counselor said to me when I first got off of Suboxone. He told me that I was going to grieve the loss of my drug. I didn't quite understand him at first, but the more he talked about it, the more sense he made. For a lot of us, our drug use had consumed our lives. Our drug use was the first thing we thought about in the morning, the last thing we thought about before bed and it filled our thoughts during the day. Once that drug was taken away, we lost something that we had been deeply dependant on and it's just plain normal to grieve that loss.

If you feel like it, you can look up the 5 stages of grief and see if any of it applies to you. I know I went through them all. BTW, you don't necessarily go directly from stage 1 to stage 2, etc., you may bounce around, you skip some stages altogether.

Like DoaQ said, recovery is a process. The 5 stages of grief I went through were just part of the process for me. Once I got to the final stage, Acceptance, that's when my recovery really started taking off. I believe recovery is a process that has some general similarities for all of us, but I also believe recovery to be quite individual. We all come into and through recovery in our own unique way, the important thing is to continue to strive to find what works for you, then apply it and make a habit of it until it becomes second nature.

FYI, I have found DoaQ's attitude and words on recovery to be most inspirational in my own recovery. She's my hero.....even though she called me a wise-ass!!!! Bee-aw-tch!! :lol:

Also, I wanted to make sure I mentioned this to you again, when I got off of Suboxone, I was positive I had buggered myself up beyond repair. I was sure I had permanently damaged myself, but as time went by, I found that I just kept on getting better and better. Have faith that you WILL get better. If you don't expect to get better, you probably won't or it'll take a lot longer to get better.
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Post by ambr » Wed Aug 01, 2012 12:13 pm

Diary of a Quitter wrote:I think we can heal a lot of the damage we've done to ourselves, but it's an ongoing cultivation of health. It's not like recovering from a cold where one day you're better. It's a process, it takes discipline and compassion, and there are ups and downs...but it's doable for sure.

Well said... I agree most definitely. :wink:
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Post by Rosshead123 » Mon Dec 05, 2016 10:09 am

You people just prove why suboxone sucks.
No one is permenently damaged unless you let this stuff do it to you. Our brains are extremely rezilliant. 10 years on 16 mg of suboxone everyday can make it nearly impossible to get off it. But if you were put in jail without it you'd be back to normal in a month or 6. You may always be in danger of relapse but for the most part your brain will go right back to how it was and you'll probably start using again. It's up to you to say screw this and be done for good so you can try to salvage some sort of life that this crap stole from you. Don't ever think you're just screwed now unless you're happy waking up like an impotent 90 year old midget every morning.

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Post by suboxdoc » Mon Dec 05, 2016 11:45 am

Wow-- how long did you spend finding a thread from 2012 that allowed you to post such a ridiculous comment?

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Post by jennjenn » Mon Dec 05, 2016 12:25 pm

Evidently Rosshead has something against suboxone, 90 yr olds and little people :)
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Post by Amy-Work In Progress » Mon Dec 05, 2016 1:13 pm

jennjenn wrote:Evidently Rosshead has something against suboxone, 90 yr olds and little people :)
Hahaha! Of course, one might add that being alive at 90 is a goal that many opiate addicts who prematurely go off their medication never reach. Instead they overdose and die before their 40th birthday. Since the scientific evidence shows that opiate addicts who go off buprenorphine too soon relapse at a rate above 90%, perhaps Rosshead has a beef with addicts who live too long. Weird.

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Post by jennjenn » Mon Dec 05, 2016 2:05 pm

Absolutely agree! :)
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Post by rule62 » Tue Dec 06, 2016 11:42 am

To All,

Normally, we do not allow people to bash Suboxone w/o some kind of medical evidence. In this case, the new member simply came here to ruffle feathers. We all know the truth about how this modern medication has saved our lives and please don't even bother to post back to this person. They will probably not return to see it.

My first instinct was to just delete the comment but we all know you're smarter than that and can see through the hate this person has left. So it will stay up as an example of good intentions gone bad.

Thank you all for supporting us here on Suboxforum. We mods and members have a great place to come to intelligently discuss this life saving medication.

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Post by TeeJay » Sat Jan 07, 2017 12:03 am

LOL just that name "Winningduhepic" brings back warm memories of days when we had some very big personalities with controversial opinions who trolled the fk outta suboxforum for weeks on end.

There'd be whole threads devoted to them on the moderators board "What do we do with X person" and there'd be arguments and schizms about them long into the night.

Fun times.

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Post by Amy-Work In Progress » Sat Jan 07, 2017 3:28 am

I think we've come down on the side of just making fun of the trolls. It seems to make them go away quicker than getting all upset by their inanity.

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